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I’m not going to lie, I could also be a bit bit obsessive about intestine well being. Actually, I discuss it a lot at dwelling that my husband and our pals have turned it right into a ingesting sport. And no, I’m not kidding. However I form of can’t assist myself as a result of it’s a massively necessary subject that’s so vital to our total well being, particularly if you happen to’re a lady over 40 who’s making an attempt to drop pounds and get wholesome.
And if you happen to’re excited to be taught extra about methods to preserve your intestine wholesome, you will love this visitor interview with Megan Lyons. She’s a double board licensed holistic nutritionist, and she or he has some tremendous useful and sensible tricks to share about, yep, you guessed it: Intestine well being, my favourite subject in the entire world.
So buckle up, good friend, as a result of it’s about to get nerdy.
Megan Lyons is a holistic nutritionist who’s the founding father of Lyons Share Wellness, the place she teaches about intestine well being, thyroid well being, and a lot extra.
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And let me inform you, Megan not solely is aware of her stuff, she really explains it in a method that makes it really easy to grasp, which I feel makes it far more useful. And so with out additional ado, I’m so excited to have the ability to introduce you to our interview visitor, Megan Lyons.
Ruth: Megan, thanks a lot for being right here. It’s so nice to have you ever. Let’s simply begin by getting a bit background, who you’re, what you do and the way you bought to doing what you are actually.
Megan: After all. So like most of us, I’ve form of a winding journey that in hindsight seems to be prefer it all flows collectively.
Nevertheless it didn’t really feel like that each one the way in which on the time. I began out really within the enterprise world. I studied economics at Harvard and I bought an MBA and I used to be working in administration consulting and I actually favored it. It was enjoyable. However throughout that, I had my very own private well being journey that principally resulted in me burning out.
I used to be burning the candle at a number of ends. I used to be over exercising. I didn’t know methods to nourish my physique. I used to be actually getting my well being info from magazines on the time, which sounds archaic now, however there was no Instagram. I didn’t know methods to entry PubMed. So I used to be doing all of the issues they mentioned.
And at 23, I walked into a physician’s workplace who fortunately examined my hormones, which is definitely fairly progressive trying again, and she or he mentioned, “Your hormones are decrease than the postmenopausal ladies that I see. One thing have to be flawed. You will need to simply should be on treatment for the remainder of your life.” And I simply knew proper then that if I had gotten myself into this case that I may additionally get myself out of it.
In order that began me studying extra about true well being and diet. And as soon as you discover it, it’s simply actually laborious to not share it. So I ended up leaving that in 2014 and beginning my enterprise, the Lyons Share, and haven’t regarded again since.
Ruth: Wonderful. I do know precisely what you’re speaking about. When you uncover that and your eyes are opened, you’re like, why doesn’t everyone do that?
It’s attention-grabbing that your physician would have examined your hormones if you had been solely 23 years outdated, like kudos, however then she instantly went to only put you on treatment for the remainder of your life.
Megan: That’s proper, and I’m really grateful, trying again, that she did take a look at the hormones, as we mentioned, however I additionally perceive that at that time, it was irregular and it was not mentioned for a 23 yr outdated younger lady to really have the signs that I used to be having and to tie it to something except for, oh, genetics.
I feel useful medication and all of the associated fields have come to date since then that nowadays it would really feel a bit bit extra regular to suppose, “Oh, hormones, is there a life-style subject? Is there a diet subject? However again then it simply wasn’t taught and wasn’t considered.
Ruth: So the place did that journey take you then? What did you do first? And what had been the hormonal points that you simply had been having and the way did you determine methods to repair them?
Megan: Completely. So the hormonal points I used to be having, I hadn’t had a interval for over 12 months. So, that’s the official definition of menopause, which I used to be 23 and there needed to be a special trigger aside from age associated menopause.
However much more drastic was simply the way in which I felt. I’ve by no means been somebody since then or earlier than who looks like I’ve mind fog. I’ve at all times been a excessive vitality individual, however I might describe it to my husband and people near me as like, “There’s somebody dwelling in my head that simply is making me be in a nasty temper and making me drained and I don’t need to be that.” I felt very disconnected from my physique in a method that I simply didn’t know methods to pinpoint what it was.
And it seems it was a confluence of things. It wasn’t simply estrogen and progesterone, but in addition my thyroid was off and cortisol, which is the stress hormone that form of controls a number of these, that was off. So my entire endocrine system was a bit wacky, however the second a part of your query was, what did I really do?
I’ve at all times been a reader. I learn a lot for pleasure and for schooling. So I actually dove into some books and that led me to conferences, which at the start of my journey, that was such enjoyable. I might do enterprise in the course of the week, after which I might go escape to this weekend convention the place I might simply be taught this entire different facet of the world, and that’s what ultimately lit me up and triggered me to leap ship from the outdated profession.
Ruth: So then how lengthy did it take so that you can begin feeling higher? Like, did you see the distinction instantly? What did you alter? What did you do?
Megan: Yeah. I want the reply was sure. It could be a significantly better story if it was like, I simply added blueberries after which inside two weeks, I felt wonderful, nevertheless it wasn’t that method for me and luckily, or sadly, I don’t suppose it’s that method for most individuals, even those that I see with extra data nowadays.
So in complete, it in all probability took me a stable yr and a half to virtually two years to essentially really feel like myself. I felt marginally higher, or I might even have mentioned then principally higher inside in all probability two to 3 months. However trying again, every thing didn’t begin firing once more as a result of I had dug myself so deep right into a gap.
I additionally wasn’t keen to go all in again then. So I’ll inform my purchasers coping with comparable points proper now. “Okay, if we may simply take you out of your life with like, no child stress, you’re going to give up work for some time, you’re not going to maintain the home, you’re simply going to go reside on a seashore in Tahiti and eat natural meals that you simply grew in your yard.
“Properly, you possibly can in all probability heal a bit bit faster, however most of us aren’t keen to do this or ready to do this.” And I definitely had one toe into the therapeutic as a result of I actually believed in it, but in addition one toe again in my outdated life, as a result of I like being that onerous charging individual.
And even at this time, I nonetheless consistently get to verify myself as a result of I do know I can simply revert to that one that will sleep when she’s lifeless and can overwork and can do all these items. That does nonetheless gentle me up if I’m completely sincere. I simply know higher now that it’s not good. It doesn’t have the glitz and glamour that it appears to have in my head.
And it at all times leads me really feel worse. So, I don’t know if that was a solution to your query, however that was a part of my journey.
Ruth: No, it was. And I feel it’s so good to really contact on that as a result of I feel a number of occasions, folks need a fast repair. And also you at all times should suppose, you didn’t get to the place you’re proper now in a single day. And therapeutic your self and therapeutic your physique, particularly since you nonetheless have life… You continue to have all these different influences which can be coming in. It’s laborious to alter every thing abruptly.
It’s a means of therapeutic. And it seems like that’s the way it was for you. So inform us a bit bit extra about what you do, what you do now and the place your degree of experience is. Trigger you’ve bought all these holistic diet levels and executed all these items.
You appear a bit kind A, can I say that?
Megan: You’ll be able to say it and I’ll settle for it. Whenever you go all in, you’re like, I’m going all in. So I do wish to go all in. My enterprise facet would say, “Oh, Megan, you’ve bought to have a distinct segment. It’s a must to have one particular specialty. And my coronary heart says there are such a lot of folks on the market which can be best for you which have a wide range of totally different circumstances.”
And I’ve adopted my coronary heart, actually, on this enterprise. So I don’t have one particular kind of shopper that I work with. I’ve a crew of useful nutritionists as properly that work with me. And we work with everybody from somebody who is perhaps 25 and simply beginning to study well being… It’s like me again within the day… all the way in which as much as our oldest shopper who has been 87.
However I might say the majority of individuals we work with, in all probability 70 to 80 p.c of our purchasers, are these ladies of their forties or possibly late thirties, possibly early fifties, possibly sixties, even who’re simply beginning to really feel like their physique doesn’t work the identical because it did earlier than, that they’re doing the identical issues they usually’re consuming the identical, possibly even higher.
They usually’re sleeping they usually’re making an attempt to verify all of the bins, however one thing’s a bit bit off. And so for me, it’s actually enjoyable to have that be like a detective puzzle. Is it the thyroid? Is it the intestine? Is it the way in which that they’re feeling they usually simply don’t know methods to gasoline? Like I didn’t know again after I was 23, however that’s the attribute that pulls me to an individual or attracts an individual to me, somebody who says, “I’ve tried all of the issues and I’m nonetheless not feeling optimum.”
Ruth: I like that. So what do you discover inside that form of inhabitants? The majority of your purchasers that you simply see in that late thirties to let’s say early sixties vary, what’s your first suspicion? Do you’ve a hierarchy of what it normally is?
Megan: Sure, that’s such an excellent query. I like it. I might in all probability say that if I had to decide on one, it normally begins within the intestine. I imagine virtually the entire points that we’re coping with at this time begin within the intestine.
So lots of people now are saying, Oh, no, properly, it’s not my intestine. I’m common. And even then I’d probe a bit bit deeper they usually’re like, yeah, I’m common. I’ve a bowel motion each 4 days. And it’s form of pebbly and dry. However that’s not common, by the way in which, however we’d not really feel like their digestive signs are their worst signs.
I do discover although that just about at all times once we give attention to lowering that irritation within the intestine, then we will give attention to among the different signs. So intestine would in all probability be primary. Actually, with this demographic, I’m going to say thyroid might be going to be quantity two. Lots of people say, Oh, it have to be my thyroid.
They usually don’t actually know, however oftentimes they’re proper. Our fashionable meals society is about up. not for supportive or for wholesome blood sugar. And so that may be the basis of a number of the problems as properly. So the third, if I had to decide on a 3rd, it might be blood sugar, which is getting increasingly more talked about nowadays.
Ruth: So let’s return to intestine well being as a result of that’s such a giant one for folks and I feel that it’s beginning to get talked about a bit bit extra. However I don’t suppose it will get talked about practically sufficient. So how does that develop into the factor that’s affecting every thing else in your physique? Are you able to clarify that a bit bit extra? Like, why is it so essential?
Megan: Completely. So the intestine ought to be like a display screen door that has the tiniest little holes in it doable.
So we’re not making an attempt to let any bugs in our home with our display screen door. We’re not making an attempt to let any meals particles into our bloodstream from our intestine. And that’s why the intestine is that this semi permeable lining. Solely escaping by the intestine lining ought to be little micronutrients, possibly some vitamin C or possibly another form of supportive issues that our blood can carry the place it must go.
However when now we have stress, when now we have poisonous publicity, when now we have extreme extremely processed meals, when now we have alcohol, when now we have antibiotics, this entire lengthy record of issues, that intestine lining simply begins changing into like a very outdated display screen door that now the holes are a lot larger and extra stuff can escape by.
And when stuff, like an entire chunk now of broccoli or no matter meals you eat, will get into the bloodstream, your physique mounts this assault on it. Your immune system comes into play and that creates irritation. And irritation now we all know has been related to most cancers and kind two diabetes and heart problems, all these items the place irritation is definitely a contributor.
If it occurs in a small space, like if I sprained my ankle and my ankle will get infected, that’s useful. However when our intestine is having these points and creating all this irritation, that’s when all of the signs begin. So if we will simply give attention to therapeutic up that intestine lining, then we will cut back the irritation and get the physique again to a baseline after which determine what different downstream impacts or conditions we have to resolve.
Ruth: So how does any person know if they’ve intestine points? You mentioned folks suppose, “Oh, my poop is common,” however like, are you able to inform by your poop? Or is it different issues you must have a look at? Or what are the large indicators?
Megan: Yeah, actually nice query. So I can say you possibly can inform your intestine will not be wholesome by your poop.
And so a wholesome bowel motion ought to be that we’re having it one to 3 occasions per day. Going to the toilet one to 3 occasions per day, folks suppose that’s rather a lot. Individuals suppose each one to 3 days is extra regular, nevertheless it’s not. And it ought to have the ability to have a bowel motion with out espresso, laxatives, any of that form of stuff.
Now I like espresso, so I’m not saying you must quit espresso altogether, however we will’t depend on that to have a bowel motion day-after-day. And other people can really Google one thing referred to as the Bristol Stool Scale– which you’ve by no means wished to see a lot poop multi functional image– nevertheless it ought to seem like that quantity 4. The Bristol Stool Scale has one to seven. And primary is extra like pellets, like little teeny pellets. And quantity seven is like diarrhea and 4 is true within the center. I wish to discuss with it as frozen yogurt consistency, though that turns folks off from frozen yogurt.
So I’m sorry however that’s what it ought to seem like. And we must always have it one to 3 occasions a day. So if it’s not that, and you already know what, let’s be sincere. Everybody has occasions that it’s not precisely like that. So if it occurs a few times, please don’t freak out. But when you already know, “Oh my gosh, each single time it’s diarrhea or no matter, then you already know, your intestine will not be wholesome.”
However let’s say you’re that one that has one quantity 4 bowel motion each single day on the stool scale. So that you’re like, Oh no, it’s not me. A pair different actually widespread issues I see: Primary, pores and skin points. So pores and skin is instantly reflective of intestine well being. For lots of my purchasers who’re coping with eczema or rosacea or zits, even grownup zits, this generally is a manifestation of poor intestine well being.
Additionally mind fog is among the commonest issues that I see. So I had mind fog again after I was going by my well being journey. And that was a sign to me that one thing was off, however individuals who simply really feel like, you already know, I’m simply not as sharp. I simply can’t focus as a lot as I used to have the ability to focus.
After which issues like continual cravings, like I’m maintaining a healthy diet meals, and I nonetheless simply can’t preserve my hand out of the sweet jar there. That’s in all probability a sign that you simply’re not absorbing your vitamins properly sufficient and so that you’re having these cravings. So lots of people suppose, “Oh, you bought to take a probiotic, proper?”
Ruth: That’s good in your intestine. Like, is that each one you must do? Or what are the steps to get your intestine more healthy if you happen to really feel prefer it’s not wholesome.
Megan: Yeah, completely. So I might say that probiotics had their heyday the place each single individual mentioned that everybody must be on a probiotic after which they had been form of vilified like, “Oh, my gosh, no, don’t do probiotics.”
And I are inclined to fall someplace within the center the place I really suppose most individuals would profit from a probiotic. In the event that they’re not consuming a number of fermented meals, like sauerkraut and kimchi and actual pickles and kefir and tempeh. There are all types of various fermented meals the place in most cultures, they’ve traditionally consumed fermented meals as a part of their common diets. We don’t eat a number of that every day. So most individuals I feel would profit from a probiotic. However there are a few of these circumstances like SIBO, which is small intestinal bacterial overgrowth, the place the micro organism form of go up too far into the small gut.
And a probiotic may even make that worse. So this is the reason some individuals are cautious. However I might say that most individuals know that in the event that they take a probiotic and their signs worsen, then that’s in all probability not the most effective for you. In any other case, if you happen to’re not consuming fermented meals, that might be a superb transfer for you.
However there are numerous different issues, such as you mentioned, and one in every of them is lowering the inflammatory content material of our meals. Most of our meals nowadays is packaged and extremely processed and I’m definitely not good right here regardless that that is my job. I’ve positively had packaged meals previously 24 hours, regardless that I actually attempt to put together virtually all of my meals. However I’m human and it’s 2024 and that’s okay.
Nevertheless, with a purpose to keep shelf secure, in that packaged meals is a number of merchandise which can be irritating to our intestine. So if you happen to have a look at the label you’ll see chemical soup and you’ll consider that as irritating to your intestine.
After which issues like added sugar and alcohol. And even to some extent, gluten and dairy, which I don’t suppose everybody has to remove gluten and dairy altogether. But when we have a look at the common American consuming 8 to 14 servings of gluten per day in complete, that’s rather a lot. That’s an excessive amount of for the common individual’s intestine well being. So once we take into consideration all these items coming collectively, after which the shortage of Anti-inflammatory vitamins, meals like greens and fruits and wholesome fats and water and even meditation and stress reduction, our eating regimen is fairly lopsided.
I’ve a handout for my purchasers, which is sort of a see noticed. I simply say, the place’s your see noticed tipped? Are you extra to the inflammatory facet or extra to the anti-inflammatory facet? After which we simply select little issues. Okay, can we add yet another vegetable to your day? Can we add some berries together with your breakfast? Can we swap that sweet bar for no matter else, one other entire meals? It’s simply these little tweaks that get us again to the fundamentals that basically can help our intestine well being.
Ruth: Fascinating. So if you happen to’re making little tweaks, I might assume that your progress goes to go slower, proper? After which if you happen to’re going all in, how lengthy would it not take to go from like, my intestine’s a large number to I bought a rockin wholesome intestine. What’s the timeframe on that?
And what’s the quickest you possibly can heal your intestine?
Megan: Properly, these are two totally different questions. The quickest you possibly can heal your intestine, like all in, true kind A kind… I’m gonna shock folks in all probability on the underwhelming facet and say three months. As a result of our intestine lining really turns over fairly shortly, relying on the kind of cells. Inside every week for lots of the varieties of cells in our intestine lining, so we will begin feeling a distinction in a short time. However to completely restore a leaky intestine with intestinal permeability, and to completely cut back that irritation, I’m going to say three months is the shortest time.
After which let’s say, you’re like me with one toe within the therapeutic and one toe in my outdated way of life. If I had had full info, even with out going all in, I feel I may have executed it in six months realizing now what I do. So I feel three to 6 months for most individuals. Set your sights on that. And we do need to really feel higher.
In case you don’t really feel higher in any respect inside two weeks, then that’s not the appropriate protocol for you. However simply set your sights on a bit bit long term to really feel absolutely higher.
Ruth: That’s good to know. I really feel like that’s a superb timeline. It’s laborious to make any actual vital change in your physique in lower than three months. As a result of all of it works collectively and it’s all related. Talking of being all related, let’s speak a bit bit about thyroid as properly, since that’s such an enormous subject. So if intestine is the primary line of protection, thyroid is subsequent commonest.
How are you aware in case you are having some type of thyroid subject or what makes you observed that?
Megan: Properly, I feel thyroid points are very troublesome as a result of primary, they’re nonetheless underdiagnosed, regardless that they’re being talked about extra. Most practitioners will simply take a look at a TSH, which individuals have seen on their lab work, and that’s not even a thyroid hormone.
That’s a hormone secreted by your pituitary that alerts your thyroid to provide the thyroid hormones. So if we’re simply testing that, we’re actually lacking the intricate particulars of what’s occurring within the thyroid. But additionally as a result of the signs are so overlapping and many individuals are getting gaslit as a result of among the signs like bloating, constipation, fatigue, cussed weight acquire or incapability to drop pounds, insomnia, mind fog… these will be disregarded as like, “Oh yeah, everybody feels that method. That’s regular.” And regular on this case will not be optimum. So possibly sure, the common lady does have mind fog and constipation and incapability to drop pounds, however that’s not what we ought to be striving for.
So it’s not optimum. And with no main signal, like, eczema the place there’s a visible manifestation and somebody can have a look at that and say, sure, that’s eczema with thyroid problems, we don’t diagnose the dysfunction. And we don’t at all times even have that. So I feel it’s fairly robust for folks to get acceptable consideration.
And it’s tremendous, tremendous widespread nowadays due to the entire stress that we’re beneath and are altering meals provide and all these issues. As much as 60 p.c of people that have a thyroid dysfunction or situation don’t even know they’ve it.
Ruth: Wow. Actually?
Megan: Yeah. Thyroid treatment is among the most prescribed drugs on the market.
Ruth: So do you suppose the one option to definitively inform is to get a blood take a look at or have your thyroid examined? I imply, if I take your query for the phrases that you simply mentioned, that’s the one option to definitively know.
Megan: Sure, I do suppose it’s a blood take a look at. So I wish to order lab checks solely primarily based on my shopper’s urge for food for them. If I had my very own method and lab checks had been free, I might run all of the lab checks on each single individual as a result of extra info is healthier for me. However some folks, they really feel over examined or that it’s not financially possible or many different the explanation why folks wouldn’t need to get a take a look at.
So there are numerous issues that might be supportive of a thyroid situation that actually don’t harm in any other case, like selenium and zinc are thyroid supportive vitamins actually specializing in stress and sleep administration is huge so we will make some progress even when we don’t formally know. However I feel on the finish of the day, the one option to definitively know is to run that full thyroid panel, not simply the TSH.
Ruth: Gotcha. However say you do know that you’ve a thyroid subject, possibly you’ve been examined, possibly you go to the physician, they take a look at you, they are saying, yep, it’s a thyroid subject and instantly they’re going to need to put you on Synthroid or one thing comparable, proper? So what’s your strategy to that? I’m assuming you are taking extra of a holistic strategy.
Megan: Yeah, so I do. However once more, it is determined by the shopper. And typically I’ll speak to their major care supplier. And different occasions we’ll simply let the shopper be the middleman. Some individuals are like, I really feel so dangerous proper now. I need to take treatment and I’ll work on really therapeutic my physique.
And that’s okay. It’s completely their perspective. Different individuals are like, No, let’s give it a shot. If I can begin feeling higher in three months, then I can keep away from the treatment. And that’s additionally nice. I do know that within the overwhelming majority of instances, we will get folks feeling higher even with out treatment. And that’s wonderful.
However typically treatment is useful. My solely drawback with treatment is when practitioners slap it on the individual with out even giving them a consideration or making an attempt anything. That’s the place I feel we’ve gone flawed. I don’t suppose treatment is all evil although. No, it’s not all evil, however there’s rather a lot that’s.
Ruth: I don’t disagree with that. Huge pharma will not be my favourite. I discuss that rather a lot. So what are the final way of life modifications that you’d suggest any person, particularly a lady of their forties, fifties, sixties, to make, to only total really feel higher?
Megan: Sure. So I’ve a button that’s simply outdoors of arm’s attain, however I name it my magic button. It doesn’t really do something, sadly, however I’ll present it to my purchasers and be like, if I may change one factor that might take advantage of distinction in your well being, what would it not be? And I promise you 99 occasions out of 100, they know what it’s. Perhaps it’s that I haven’t exercised in 10 years, or possibly it’s, I’m over exercising.
Perhaps it’s, I actually am not sleeping or I’m taking an excessive amount of metaphorically on my shoulders, or I’m gazing a display screen 14 hours a day, or I’m on this poisonous relationship. Nearly at all times they know the largest factor. And so then my job is to assist them break it down and determine how can we really take motion?
As a result of data with out motion will not be actually that useful. Nevertheless it’s laborious. Let’s say somebody’s subject is stress. Properly, that’s a lot simpler mentioned than executed. It’s not identical to, Oh, cease being harassed. Properly, goodness is aware of they’ve considered that earlier than. We simply have to determine methods to do it. It’s our way of life nowadays the place all of us suppose we’re tremendous ladies… and I do too.
And we expect we must always do the entire issues the entire time. And that simply doesn’t normally result in a wholesome way of life or physique. So primary is the magic button. What’s your factor that we will begin making a bit little bit of progress on? Quantity two might be associated for most individuals, which is carving out a while within the day for you.
And I do know the entire the explanation why folks’s alarm bells are going off saying they’ll’t, possibly they’ve a number of children they usually’re working and all of these items, however all of us are human and we do want that little time within the day. One of many main issues that helped me in my therapeutic course of was my morning routine.
I like it within the morning. I don’t suppose it needs to be within the morning, however that’s my time. I actually have this pink blanket and I wish to cozy up even within the Texas summer season and I learn and I do gratitude and I do these items that don’t take very lengthy, however they’re soul fulfilling for me. So for another folks that may imply they’ve a dialog with their greatest good friend on the cellphone day-after-day once they’re strolling or they take a shower, which isn’t my factor, nevertheless it’s wonderful if it’s another person’s.
Simply one thing little, a couple of minutes per day that you could carve out for you. After which third, since I feel you requested for 3, or possibly I simply make every thing into three, can be to essentially give attention to these greens. I do know that everybody has heard this. And I do know everybody thinks they need to be consuming extra.
However when I’ve folks in for the primary time and I say, Oh, are you consuming greens? They’re like, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I get to the extra horny stuff. After which I give them this little put up it be aware. And I say, each time this week that you’ve a vegetable, simply give me a bit tally and inevitably they’ll come again they usually’ll be like, Oh my gosh, I believed I used to be consuming actually healthily.
And there are solely two on this tally for the week. So I do suppose that specializing in that and never solely what we’re taking out, just like the sugar and all of that form of stuff, however including in these greens can be my third.
Ruth: Find it irresistible. Find it irresistible. Such good recommendation. So Megan, how can any person discover you to seek out out extra about serving to them with all of these items?
Megan: All the pieces is linked on my web site, theLyonsShare.org. I’ve been running a blog each week since 2013, so there’s a number of free info up there. If somebody simply desires to go looking now we have some enjoyable freebies after which all of the hyperlinks on methods to work with our crew are up there as properly.
Ruth: Superior. I like it. Thanks a lot for being right here, Megan. This was so useful and so informative.
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